Hi folks, I'm looking to restore a peerless or warwick in the next couple of years. I'm moving to scotland next year, to a house with a big garage. High on the to-do list will be to find a peerless to restore/rebuild to my spec. I would like to know current owners views on engine modifications/ swaps. My last triumph was a modified TR6 (tripple webbers etc) and that sort of performance was what I would like from my peerless. I didn't want to go down the triumph six route, neither do I want to fit a modern engine. I was thinking of a dolomite sprint motor or lotus2.2, I'm aiming for a reliable 200hp. Obviously, I understand that there aren't may of these cars left in the world, and while I'm not shy of modifing classic cars, I would never mutilate a good, original or rare car. I want an original looking car with the extra performance (and noise) of a sports gt. My friends and I make the pilgrimage to Le mans every year and it would be great to do 2008 in a hot peerless.
Any views, opinions or suggestions are gladly welcome. I understand, many enthusiasts don't like the idea of non-standard classic cars and their views are also sought on the subject.
If the block that you choose is much longer than about 24 inches then some other vital component like the pedals or the steering will have to move. This is why there are no 6-cyl Peerlesses.
If the block and the associated exhausts are wider than 24 inches then it won't fit either. You can just get a Buick 215 or RV8 in there, but only if you can manage without oil and air filters. Genuine Buick cast exhausts are 24 inches across. Even Buick and Triumph engines are very close to the bonnet so downdraught carbs will poke out.
The spaceframe is not triangulated, and flexes in use, high stress points are prone to cracking. The body adds nothing to the overall strength. Just how brave are you?
Substantial modification of the chassis to overcome these problems will probably get you a Q reg and a huge phone bill when you try to find insurance. Some members of the register may not welcome you, I was getting gyp for having telescopic rear shocks.
A mildly tuned TR will give you a 9 sec 0-60, 110+, and all the noise, heat and smells that you can handle. You also get a manic grin, and not much with 2 litres will get away from you. Bits are cheap and available on mail order from several suppliers. OK, it's not as fast as a Westie, but I hear that it sometimes rains in Scotland.
Thanks Frank, thats the sort of input I was looking for. I'm all for tuning the triumph 4 but I've heard some (a lot) real horror stories of broken cranks on modified TR3s&4s and I remember the cost of rebuilding my six. I will try out a standard peerless before buying if I can but I thought I'd put the feelers out first before deciding on what state of car to buy ( as there are so many available). I've only seen one peerless in the flesh before and that was at the autosport show at the NEC a couple of years ago, so I don't know much about the other cars in the register.
Interesting, i go down to France, Cornwall, devon, Lake District use for work all over the place and it suits me..I get the kids in the back, ballast in the front...whooops... and stuff in the boot.
I guess I'm an old git.
i run a track day a Curbourgh once a year and have been shaving a second off each year.
I get 32 mph @ 80+, went to Goodwood this morning in two and quater hours from Worcestershire.
Just thought of some thing....FRANK what's this telescopic damper business?? black ball in the post!
You need to try one or go get something with more under bonnet space, as Frank says there tight.
I'm all for mods that help keep the cars usable in modern trafic.
well guys what do you think..should we talk to him or hang him out to dry?
I'll admit the TR3 has a reputation for broken cranks.
However, if it's carefully put together with a lightened flywheel, harmonic crank damper and a full balance it should be OK. There's so much torque there's no point revving it above 5000, the factory used to use 5500, and 4200 in OD top is a ton. Even on SU's you should be able to get 125BHP, and in 940Kg that's well quick. For comparison a Golf GTI turbo has 150BHP in 1500Kg.
A pukka fast road TR engine should set you back around £2500, or less if you can build it yourself. If you want to go that way, a 200BHP Ford duratec or Vauxhall 16V will cost you around 6K, but the resulting car would probably be worth 4K less than one with the original lump in it, and you'd still have all the aggro with engineers reports, insurance and possibly SVA/Q reg.
If you want to take one in 2008, you'd better get started soon.
Thanks guys, I think you've convinced me. I apart from this website and the TR register, is there anywhere you'd recommend looking for a project car or even a good one. Ebay occasionaly throws one into the pot, but aside frfom that I'm stuck. Do the members of the peerless register meet anywhere apart from shows, runs etc?
Give us a ring or look at our website www.imadeuk.co.uk I agree with Nigel, we race our unmodified TR3A engined Peerless at top revs and full torque with no probs, but give us a look. 01440786869.