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A rather pricey Peerless


Have we all seen this?

https://www.oldtimerfarm.be/nl/collectiewagen-te-koop/6306/peerless-gt-58.php

Opinions, please.



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I have. A customer of mine visited the dealership two weeks ago regarding other vehicles and sent me photos. He thought it looked very similar to mine, hence his interest. Race prepped from the looks of it, and having chatted with Big C, the Perspex windows are an issue for a road-going car in Belgium so it cant be registered as such.



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I find this something of a Curates Egg of a car. Certainly motorsport preped, but what motorsport? If track, why has it still got a passenger seat, carpets, door cards and fog or spots. I accept that that can all be removed but a bit of a faff, surely? Road Rally? No timing gear? I'm just not sure what you'd enter it in.

I'm also not a fan of the cheap P700 replicas on the front. At a ba' hair (as we say in Scotland) off 100k euros, I'd expect decent headlights.

Having said all that, undoubtably a bucket load of cash has been thrown at the car to get it to this condition and it certainly looks the part. I'm guessing from the ad that it's chassis 40. Any prior history?

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At that price I'd surely expect some very nice handmade headlamp rings!!



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Yes, all dressed up and nowhere to go!

There seem to be three P/W for sale at the moment, all priced to reflect the cash that's been spent.

If this was a race-winning tool, fair enough, but it doesn't look like serious race prep, or a road car either.

My old Ph2 has lost loads of its original features, and has a race engine, full ph1 trim and no cage.

And that blue V8 Warwick does seem to be stuck in the showroom.

What happened to the three valuation categories of provenance, originality and condition?

At the same time there are two honest, presentable and usable P/W around that have both failed to make a 25K minimum valuation.

Are we going mad here?

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-- Edited by Frank on Tuesday 12th of July 2022 02:52:31 PM

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Another passing thought......

Restoration: The process of bringing an object back to it's original state.

Classic status is not a given, and the DVLA have rules, thankfully not too onerous at the moment, but watch out for the "no tampering" legislation.

However the FIVA are more particular, as are the TUV, and now the French want to reject "unofficial modifications".

Moving too far from "as built" has risks now, these can only get worse for cars used on public roads.

Now I know that I'm not as pedantic as some when it comes to originality, but my car is in regular use. It passes it's annual MOT test, and is recognizably the vehicle it always was.

Let's see if any of these cars can reach their elevated prices, and if that has any effect on the values of more mundane examples.

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I've been looking at these pictures more closely.

GRP front inner wings replaced by alloy ones.
GRP wheel well/boot replaced by alloy one.
Bottom of chassis completely covered with pop-riveted alloy panels.
Sure looks like the foot wells have also been replaced by alloy ones.
Inner door panels replaced by flat (alloy?) panels.
No more quick action window winders.
Non original modern alloy sill covers.
Scratchy plastic windows.
TR3 number plate light.
No rear seat or side panels.
Etc. Etc.

No mention of the original parts/pieces still with the car.

This could have easily have been an incomplete basket case that has been put together with lots of alloy sheet metal.

If non-originality is represented in it's asking price they are spot on.



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