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De Dion Inner Bearing Collars. NEW!


Hello,

I'm gauging interest in new Inner Bearing Collars for the De Dion tube halfshaft set-up.

I'm having some machined up for my customer's Phase 1 car and hope to be able to supply them as a pair with new double-lipped seals.

If you're not sure which part that is, take a look at the pic of the shot blasted collar and in particular the worn groove created by the old leather seal after 60 years, which is now porous and useless at keeping grease in, dirt out.

If you've ever wondered what a searing collar is, it's when you don't take your shirt off as it's being ironed.

All the best,

Gary

 



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Stirling Stuff Mr S!

These are a good thing to replace when rebuilding your De Dion as they are invariably worn by the seal but, in my case (and I suspect in others) if stood for a long period the seal sticks to the this collar and then when

new found energy is put through the system (IE you push the wreck from storage point A to point B in you're ever decreasing attempts to restore your pipe dreams) the collar stays stuck to the seal and rotates around the shaft.

Then when you finally do drive the car they stay that way and you have a steel shaft rotating within the steel collar which then creates a gap for the grease to leak through.

So if you are serious about rebuilding your De Dion I'd jump in for a set.....

 

Gary, put me down for a pairwink



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I'll take a pair too, Gary. Add to the "box of unobtainability"
dave

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Gary, any word on these getting created?

I just disassembled the first side of the de dion, and would like to replace as much as i can.

I can confirm the hub is a devil to remove, though it did come off with a bang and a 7 ton puller. Made my son and I jump when it did, too.



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Hello Dave,

Yes, having them made is not a problem. Lead time will be a few weeks currently because the engineer has plenty of pre-Christmas workload to commit to already.

Anyone else wanting a pair, I suggest you just say yes and I'll confirm prices ASAP. If you need seals, I'll check my supplier and confirm those too.

All the best,

Gary



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I'd like a nice pair Gary and happy to play with them after xmas omfg.gif



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Please put me on the list as well. Thank you for doing this. Greg Haskin

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I would like a pair (with seals).

Marcus in Sweden

 



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I'm going to finish off the thread (peerless-gt.activeboard.com/t66079337/rear-axle-dimensions-and-seals/) by adding this info here, for completeness.

Here's what I've found:

Seal 14774 (on whats it off): Int diameter: 38mm
Seal 18657 (off my car): Int diameter: 47.63mm

My inner bearing collar is OD 47.7mm, ID 33.3mm and the collar section is 42mm diameter

So, the 18657 is the one that fits, so "what's it off" is incorrect, assuming that my inner bearing collar is correctly sized.

The dimensions of 18657 is the same as that in Gary's picture about (ID 1.875" = 47.63mm), again showing that what's it off is incorrect.

The collar on my shaft is in relatively good condition compared that from Gary's customer's car. However is it pulled off easily by hand, I assume that at some point it suffered from what Nigel descried - the shaft running in the collar, rather than the collar i the seal.

So here's my stupid question: Should the collar be a press-fit like a bearing? If not, what stops the shaft turning in the collar anyway, letting grease out.



-- Edited by DaveC on Wednesday 4th of December 2019 03:49:01 AM

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I would have thought a press fit so long as your shaft is round enough? if its a press fit then it shouldn't leak grease although you could put a little sleeve lock on it as well?



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