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RE: Restoration of Irish Peerless?Warwick


Where the doughnuts you are referring too on the half shafts going to the rear wheels or the main driveshaft? 

 

Also does anyone have a measurement between the hub carriers on the outer dedion and the chassis rails that run beneath them AT RIDE HEIGHT? Trying to mock up frame/rear end on my build table before replacing rusted tubes.

 

Thanks, Jim



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Hi Jim,

On my car there's only one and that is mounted beteen the driveshaft and differential.

The half shafts only have uj's.

For the dimensions you need, i could drive to my storage tommorow to take some measurements.



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The flanges on the halfshafts at the outer ends are just over half an inch clear of the chassis at normal ride height.  There are rubber bump stops under the de-dion tube to stop them chewing lumps out of the chassis as the suspension unloads.  Under compression the limit is when the spare wheel well hits the tarmac, or the shackles at the back of the springs run out of travel.  Stiffer rear springs are highly recommended for enthusiastic progress.

Do not expect the layrub "donut" at the front of the diff to tolerate any drive line misalignment, or it will chew itself to bits, treat it as a shock absorber and it will last.  If you can't insert the layrub bolts under finger pressure then either the engine of the diff is in the wrong place.

 

Good luck!

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Eric - My car has a u joint at rear of shaft and a splined joint at front.

Frank - Thanks for the measurement. It appears the Irish car (as I got it) had a couple changes to possibly improve downward (drop) suspension travel. First it had tube shocks fitted. 2) The front to back straight tubes that go under the rear hub inner flanges you mentioned have been made from 2 tubes in a V which moved the tubes under the flange area of the hub about 2" inwards so the hub doesn't hit them. Last the frame does not have any rubber buffers mounted under the dedion tube. I believe they used the tube shock at the limiter.

Thanks again for the info guys.

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Hi JIm,

Does your horizontal tubes look like this at the rear? don't get confused with the weird looking steel over the diff and on the angled side tubes, this is for seat belt fixings!

 

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No. The tube the runs parallel to the leaf spring in the photo appears all the way along its axis. There is another tube in the photo that runs at an angle from the center of the car (at the front) and goes outward as it goes back. There appears to be a small tab (maybe to hold exhaust) between these tubes right under the half shaft. Left call this POINT A.

In the Irish car the tube the goes from center of car and run outward towards back of car is the same BUT the tube that runs parallel to the leaf spring has runs from the same location at front and intersects the other tube at Point A (under the halfshaft). It then continues on an angle to the rear cross tubes. This effectively move the tube 1.5 - 2" inwards where it runs under the halfshaft, giving the half shaft flange more room to move downward. It appears the dedion tube still has issues but it gives you a little more droop in the suspension. I'll see if I can get some photos this weekend when I'm in the garage.



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yea a photo launches a thousand ships and all that.... this chassis is not the standard layout as the out tube that is parallel with the spring is inset, it should line up with that vertical tube (behind the damper)



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