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Gary S · Status: Offline

Peerless on Facebook

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

As you can imagine I found the title to this man's Peerless Video somewhat insulting, however I have invited him to provide us with an apology or an explanation via his Facebook acount (a copy of which may be seen below).

As the previous registrar for the Peerless and Warwick Owners Register and someone who has sacrificed many thousands of hours to support the marque and the wider Peerless community, I find your You Tube video title arrogant, offensive and ill informed. If you wish to apologise to the club members and retract your comment then please do so on the Peerless and Warwick Register forum here http://peerless-gt.activeboard.com/.../peerless-on-facebook/

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Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Hi Gary

Things are going slow at the moment. I was working so hard for a long time, and I got sick of the car. But I am going to restore the Peerless to its former glory some day.

My Facebook page is a place for me to store all the photos from the progress, and was never meant to insult anybody.

The title of the video referring to a funny song, that beskribes all old cars I would know, as I got some

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

Ok Atle

But what you need to understand is that when I invite people to search for Peerless Cars on the internet (as I did with a gentleman in a car show room last week) one of the top Google Image search results is the title of your You Tube Video in nice bold letters at the top of the page which does not help to promote the marque in the slightest and quite frankly is an insult to the hard work of the people that run this club for no reward. Please can you contact You Tube and ask for the title to be changed to something more appropriate or have the video removed and re-post it with a less inflammatory title.

-- Edited by Jon Nolan on Friday 9th of May 2014 11:13:40 AM

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Ok. The name is charged on the video

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

Thank you Atle that is very much appreciated.

I hope to see you at the TR International this summer where I will buy you a beer and we can forget all about it in style!

Cheers.

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

A beer is sometime the only thing that I need biggrin

Here's some more video of my Peerless.

Peerless GT in Winter Norway: http://youtu.be/NecZw4Tft_g

Peerless GT 1959 Back on the road: http://youtu.be/Xf-6wmErd3o

Peerless GT: http://youtu.be/5QxQsyRr5sg

Enjoy.

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

I have severe garage envy... cry

nigel c · Status: Offline

not loud enough!

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Hi all.
I am thinking of selling my Peerless GT.
A bloke in Norway is interested in swapping for a 1968 Jensen interceptor, and I am thinking about it...
Is there any interest for my car in this forum?
If so, what is the right price?

Best regards
Atle Granby
Norway

Gary S · Status: Offline

Don't do it Atle! It's called an Interceptor because it intercepts your wallet even more than a Peerless. I rate them too, but they are considerably more intense to own and maintain, not to mention fuel costs. 10mpg on a downhill fjord?

Your Phase 1 is the car I'd agreed to buy before it was offered to you due to my circumstances at the time. i'd love to see you drive GEH out of your workshop restored and I don't give a rats fig what you call the video either.

Keep the faith!

All the best, Gary

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Thanks Gary.
The Interceptor is a nice car, but I have second thoughts about swapping. It has rust, and is a restoration project.
But I am thinking about selling the Peerless to a good home.
I also got the Jaguar XJ6 series 1 and the Triumph GT6 on the road. Maybe that's enough...
My Peerless is 95% complete and I spent £6500 in parts so far. It is almost new underneat, missing only paint and interior. The paint I got in the basement 😀

nigel c · Status: Offline

C'mon Atle, where's your individuality, Jensens...two a penny and rust like you wouldn't believe. STORY TIME. I Help my dad respray a Jensen Interceptor in the 1974 and it was a rotten as north sea fisherman's bucket AND THAT WAS A 1968 car!

Enjoy the GT6 whilst your finishing off the Peerless, believe me you'll sell it when you start using the Peerless.

And sorry, cant get to excited about the Jag

you must be soooo close to finishing?

Erik V · Status: Offline

Hi Atle,

If you don't need the money, don't sell it!!

My car is far from ready, but now way i'll sell it.

I still remember the drive in Frank Wright's Peerless, and believe me that was cool!

A great car, and soo much more special than anything else from that period (unless you're a millionair)

Like Nigel says,enjoy the gt6 and just wait until the itch comes back.

Cheers,

Erik

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Nigel
The GT6 I have owned for 14 years, and I built it as I wanted. It is a good car. The XJ6 I owned for 9 years, and that is the family's choice. The Peerless is one winter away from the road. That is with hard work.
I somehow managed to get tyred of the car. All the fun work is carried out, only missing the work I do not seem to find fun in.
So if there is a good home for the car, I will consider an offer.
I am not sure what is the right price.

Frank · Status: Offline

ATLE:

There are many "part restored" Peerless and Warwick cars out there
and even GEH could have been described as such when you got it.
It looked like the previous restorer lost heart when the body wouldn't
go back on to the rebuilt chassis, and you seem to have sorted that.

Both Gary S and I looked at this car, I went on to do an "easier"
unmolested but rotten phase 2. Gary's making a great job with his.

I know that there are many, many times when a Peerless will exhaust
your patience, but this website, and the folks behind it (and a mention
for Classics Monthly) can help because we have all been there.

Finishing and driving a restoration is way, way more satisfying than
doing it, even if you need help with some things.

Finally, if you can avoid it, don't sell the car. I sold mine at a
very low period in my life, and I've regretted letting it go ever
since. I'm doing it all again with a Warwick, and hope to meet up
with you at a TR meet sometime soon.

Frank from Felixstowe.

rkent47 · Status: Offline

Atle,

This has happened to me a couple of times with cars that I have poured heart and soul into, only to get frustrated and/or tired of the car. My first 1955 Thunderbird sat outside in a tree grove for almost 5 years before I rescued it and got started on it again. Thank Heaven I didn't sell it to all of the guys that stopped to see if I would sell. As has been said, if you don't "need" the money, drive the GT6 and Jag, leave the Peerless under a tarp for a while and enjoy a different road for a time...

Kent

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Thank you all for the sympathy.
The Peerless has been under cover the past 2 years now, and I still don't want to spend time with it.
I have to think twice about selling it.
I remember when I first saw a Peerless, it was Frank's white and blue at Triumph Mark Day, Gaydon heritage senter back in 2001, I think. It was love at first glimpse.
When my car came to me in springtime 2009 I was excited. I have managed to resolve the problem on the frame, and the body is back on the car. I even had a few small trips in the nebourhod, as you can see on u tube.
As you can see, I am dreaming when I thinking about the Peerless.

Nevertheless, if there is a good home for the car, I will consider selling it.
But for how much money????
My car is still in the DVLA register in UK!!!

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

IT WAS NIGEL'S CAR AT GAYDON!!!!!!!

Gary S · Status: Offline

I stumbled across these pics just now Atle, given to me by Dudley Thomson a while back. I recognised your car with the bonnet intake treatment.

I don't know which racing circuit they were taken at though.

Hope they keep you keen!

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Thanks Gary.

Mine has the opening in the bonnet. When was this taken?

I went to the shed to look at the lady. She is a stunning looking old lady.

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Atle Granby wrote:
Thanks Gary.
Mine has the opening in the bonnet. When was this taken?
I went to the shed to look at the lady. She is a stunning looking old lady.

And some photos of the Peerless, GT6, XJ6 and my XJ8.

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Atle Granby wrote:
Atle Granby wrote:
Thanks Gary.
Mine has the opening in the bonnet. When was this taken?
I went to the shed to look at the lady. She is a stunning looking old lady.
And some photos of the Peerless, GT6, XJ6 and my XJ8.

Dean · Status: Offline

Atle,

On your Peerless, the headlight bucket looks like it was gafted on. I have my Phase 1 down to glass and I see no evidence of a two piece design. I am wondering if that is just the paint/primer providing an illusion or if they indeed did have a two piece design at one point.

Dean

PS - Hope you keep it and get a chance to enjoy it on the road.

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

I agree Dean, they do look very grafted on! I'm 99.9% sure that they were never a separate molded item though. I think all sorts went on in the 1960's and especially the 1970's people didn't think twice about hacking bits off to personalise their Peerless or Warwick! I've seen many fins cut off (presumably to make some kind of Japanese broth) and several Peerless's with "Frenched-In" headlights, Albert Gay (the chap that rolled his Peerless spectacularly at Brands Hatch and ended up on the front page of the Daily Express (news paper) sported such a modification (briefly). I've attached a couple of photos... I've even seen one Peerless that was turned into a hatch back (very badly, I think that one also had a Daimler engine and a Roots Supercharger as well but I may be mistaken). My Warwick had exhaust pipes exiting just in front of the rear wheels at some point and presumably silencers in the sills instead of petrol tanks! I saw the patches when I started rubbing it down at one point. I know there was a factory conversion kit available from Bernie Rodgers Developments Ltd to fit ordinary (Lucas/Mini style) headlight rims to Phase 1 Peerless's as I've still got a receipt for one that my dad bought in the mid 60's but this didn't involve any hacking! I think at different times, different things fell in and out of fashion, fins were seen as very dated at one point just as was the protruding style of the Phase 1's headlights and I'm sure many tried the Frenched-in look and subsequent owners regretted it and put it back! The Le Mans Car is a case in point, my dad bought it in the late 1960's and it had a Phase two front end, presumably after a minor shunt, thankfully Ken Wilson has now put it back to how it should be! Now all I need to do is persuade him to let me have it back...

Atle Granby · Status: Offline

Hi.
I think it is just photo from a bad angle. The right front has been in a accident some time, and what you see is old filler.

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

If you've stalled in the restoration and feel like you can't continue how about paying someone else to do one or two of the things you are really dreading doing yourself and this may be the inspiration you need to fire up your enthusiasm again! Which bits are you dreading by the way?

It's so very, very nice to drive a car that no one has any clue about whatsoever! It's so entertaining just listening to people try to come across all knowledgeable in front of their wives and their wide eyed offspring and say things like "Oh yeah a Bristol, yeah my uncle had one..." "Oh yeah Volvo P1800 my Dad had one..." "Oh yeah AC Greyhound, my mum's got two..." Then watch their faces when you tell them it's a Peerless..." It's even funnier when you tell them it's a Peerless and then they say "Oh yeah a Peerless, yeah I was going to say that, yeah a guy had one who lived on our street..." And you can just sit back smugly and smile as the word WAn**3R drifts gently through your mind to the imaginary sound of the klaxon and the huge Monty Python pointing finger from above...

I promise you this, you WILL regret it in the future if you sell it now, everyone does, persevere, go the extra mile and you too can have livers like ours from too many Peerless weekends with Frank Jones and his never ending bottle of Whiskey (it's amazing, my doctor had never seen anything like it)...

So, how many bottles of scotch are in a unit then officer? and that other classic...

I was confused your honour how was I to know she was married...

Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

Ah Ha if you look on the gallery page you can see a picture i put up the other day (B&W bottom right) with the head lamp conversion kit I was talking about...

Hang on try this... SUPER STICKY OUTY!!

Standard Lucas headlamp rim conversion

-- Edited by Jon Nolan on Monday 19th of May 2014 08:38:27 PM

Dean · Status: Offline

Jon,

Albert's rollover accident looks horrific. In the second photo he seems to be exiting the car backwards, and worse yet the fins look like they are shaved.

In your post above the bright strip below the door is an interesting feature. No front bumper, yet the rears are painted...

Dean

nigel c · Status: Offline

Yep, and he walked away!

Looking at Atle's car it does look like a repair to a phase 2 wing, it does seem common practice to get your ph 1 car repaired with a ph 2 front if it was damaged around the time/close after bankruptcy.

I also have a car that is fitted with the after market standard Lucas headlamp rim/bucket kit from Bernie

Atle, keep the faith, you've come so far..

as to Value, I cant guestimate as each country values their cars differently and the amount of work already undertaken is not always observed.