Hi Joe! well your still about then, missed you at malvern! anyway De Dion wobble, we've all got it and Tammiflu doesnt work!
have a look in your handbook (what you havent got one...well I can sell you one) on page 45. there is a full layout of the internals. working from the top down (as the present Mrs Cluley requires ) you willl see the hub assembly, then outer bearing seal and then (the culprit I suspect) the outer bearing washer. this is a steel washer that acts as a shim, if you can find someone who can cut suitable shim steel you can pack this out a little more. thus putting more pressure on the bearing when you do the big nut up! remember that trying to just tighten the nut wont work as the hub assembly is on a tapper and keyway and will not go any further that it normally does. And the little bugger probably wont come off as it's sat nice and tight on the tapper for fifty years!
If I was you I would mark which hole the split pin goes through before removing it. this will give you perhaps a little indecation if anything has changed when reassembled and thightened up.
try heat on the flange whilst using a "really good puller" (also known as Nigel ) fitted properly to the flange. i.e. if it's the hook variety that hook round the edge of the flange, set it in place and then bound the pullers legs (oooh no you dont, I'm not that sort of bloke!) with wire to stop it sliding off under pressure. it's a tricky opperation but you should set it all up with lots of pressure on the centre point, heat it as hot and as quickly as you can and then **** the end of the centre section of the puller ( that is centred on the drive shaft end) as hard as you can. the shock should release the hub assembly.....it may also release something in you when it goes bang!
dont over tighten the bearing, you should have some end float whn alls tight. I had about 5 tho on mine but it does seem to have a little more now! perhaps I will just nip out and find my puller and..............
Hi Joe good to here your still about as one of the few Warwick owners with a car on the Road. I to last MOT had an advisory re my rear wheel bearing rear near side. I have been asking around as an DIY person on car repair. I am first going down the route of these washers that may been warn before actual bearing replacement. Lets see how we get on. How is the car overall. Mine is still ok with a few winter jobs to look at. You say you will look in your manual. Do have an actual Warwick Manual as I have never seen one or is ita Peerless Manual of which I have a reprint. I would be interested to know. Hope to hear from you soon and maybe see you at Malvern in 2010. Regards
I have been playing about with the car all year in an attempt to get it back on the road, the main problem that had me fooled for ages was getting the throttle linkage right, I had HS6 carbs with a H6 linkage....
I am moving house in a few weeks and decided that I really did want to drive it to the new place, not take it on a trailor, hence the recent activity. I have now insured it and plan to take it for an MOT next week - the only problem at the moment is the clutch has seized due to inactivity
I will let you know how I get on with my bearings.
my email is joespiro @ hotmail.com if you want to keep in touch.
I do not believe there is a Warwick Manual, the peerless one seems to do the job just fine - not that I read it - that would be cheating!
Are there any other Peerless/Warwick Owners in the Reading area?
Not as far as I know. I'm not sure of the date of production of the first car. Alan H ought to know, it's him! Does anybody have WGT-0001? Mine is - 0014 by the way.
I do know that there's a watering hole known as the Five Bells in Horton, just a short walk from Mill Lane, which is now a housing estate. Horton is just by the M25, off the Terminal 4 junction. About as central as you could wish for!
Otherwise we'll have to meet up at Malvern with the rest of the PFLP.
I think this thread has gone a little of course,but yes there will be an extravaganza next year to celebrate the start of production of the Warwick, especially if someone wants to organise it!
I have submitted the entry form for next years Classic Motor Show. That doesnt mean we automatically get a space, we will have to wait and see in May next year.
After celebrating the Ph1 last year and the Ph2 this year it only seems fit to do the same for the Warwick in 2010.
obviously we will also have the largest gathering of Warwicks at the TR International in 2010...so long as you lot get them running and bring them along
as for doing something around the old factory site. I will get in touch with my South East co-ordinator and see what plans he has.....oh and if your wondering who that is Duncan....It's you!
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RE: Rear Wheel Bearings now Warwick 2010 celebrations
I think a street party in the housing estate where the factory was is a good idea. I do not think neighbours will mind the noise, nigels caravan, franks trailer tent and Alan House I am sure would lend us a teepee or two.
I will definitely go to the international in 2010 and would be up for a Warwick celebration elsewhere if appropriate. Nigel/Duncan, I am happy to help with arrangements if needed, you have my email address.
Well the MOT is booked for Monday so keep your fingers crossed, I took the car out for a drive at the weekend (on private roads - honest constable!) and apart from a slight fuel leak it drove well. So it should be running for July next year even if I haven't managed to get the bodywork sorted by then.Does anyone have the dates for next years international yet?
OK if this worked we've cracked it! this is the spacer that we've been talking about. as you can see there's a lot of wear. now if someone out there has a pet fabricator/machinist then perhaps we could get a batch of shims made to sort this problem out?
i have meassured this one and in metric these are: outer dia 61.53 inner dia 33.30 thickness 3.76
Well I finally got round to taking the Warwick for it's MOT today. Things did not start well - a van reversed into it whilst it was waiting - luckily my wife saw the whole thing and we have agreed that it will be repaired FOC at the garage doing the test.
Anyway. IT PASSED!!!!
So, I will have a Warwick on the road for the 50th. I am very pleased.
Now do you think Mel will miss a few quid missing from the housekeeping if I get the bodywork done...... 0
well it looks like steel, it tastes like steel so I guess...yea I know there's alsorts! I dont know...I would say its mild steel cus its worn. I'll try filing it tomorrow. i think we need a new spacer to a certain thikness and then shims?
Hi, I'm trying to find out if you can use Timken 2523 instead of Timken 2523s rear axle bearings in my P1 peerless. The supplier tells me the only difference is outside sholder has a radius of 1.3 mm and the s has a radius of 1.5mm. The standard bearings are about $50 AUS and the s bearings are $380 AUS if you can get them.
The reply from Dean on the TR Register's forum I think answers your question - he wrote there:
"I had the same question about the S when I rebuilt the axle in my Warwick. In the case of the 2523 and the 2523-S, the difference is in the Housing Fillet Radius. This is the cup part that seats in the housing to the shoulder inside. The S is 0.06 in radius and the other is 0.05 in. Not a lot of difference but if the radius doesn't clear, the load will be on the edge and not on the flat of the cup against the shoulder. I went with the engineers and put in the 2523-S."
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but yes there will be an extravaganza next year to celebrate the start of production of the Warwick, especially if someone wants to organise it!
