The Peerless & Warwick Discussion Forum

Date: May 6, 2009

New Phase 1 'P' grilles!!!!!!!!!

Date: May 6, 2009

Count me in... Thanks! - Dean in So Cal

Date: May 7, 2009

Hi Dean,
thanks for taking the time to do something for the good of all! smile

I have looked into/been part of this process before over the years, the problem lies in the shape. it is not flat. if you were to lay it on the bench face down the centre circle will sit flat and the long extended "arms" curve upwards.
this causes a great deal of trouble when trying to cast.
if your guy is confident then OK, BUT should you really be using a GRP copy as a master? I have seen these before (as they are the only "cheap" way to copy a grill badge) again over the years.

should'nt you really start with a genuine item? smile

Date: May 9, 2009

Hello Nigel,

your reply has confused me (not difficult I know).
I'm aware of the curvature. The dummy I have was given to me by Alan House. It is a very good starting point.
I brought it to Malvern a couple of years back you may recall (okay, you probably don't, it was a late night!)

Alternatively, I'm happy to use an original if someone is willing to lend one.
The company prepared to make it also make, amongst other things, alloy cylinder heads, so I reckon they'll be good enough for the task.

Date: May 11, 2009

Hi Gary,
sorry matey I was one confused there, I thought it was Daen sorting it out. hmm

anywho back to the casting. sounds great to me. i dont have a spare to lend you but I'm sure there are a few out there?
(yes your registrar is lookin for a bit of spare!)

if it's a goer and price is right put me down for one biggrin

(thank god FJ doesnt get on here!) doh

Date: May 13, 2009

Hi All, We have one in stock that we could lend you Gary! It is the only spare one that we have. If you want to give me a ring I'm sure we can sort something out! C&I.

Date: May 18, 2009

Hi Celia, that's great news. Will call you.

Update

Quote from my email correspondence:
"To avoid excessive costs we can work from an original and make
allowances for contraction.
I am assuming you will want the part in aluminium and have it polished, the
other ( more expensive ) option is to cast in bronze and chrome plate.

Assuming we go the aluminium route we would estimate the cost for the
raw casting at £130.00ea. polishing would be an extra charge."

Let me know numbers.

I have a preliminary meeting this Thursday with the company.
I intend to ask about casting the round Peerless badge too. I have an old one I'll take with me.

Does anyone want me to ask about any other Peerless bits whilst I'm there? Those Ph1 door handle end retainer sockets things for example?

Thanks,
Gary

Date: May 19, 2009

go go gary! biggrin

thanks for the input and i guess £130 is not unreasonable as it is a great feature of the car. wink

door handle retaining stops are well worth sorting,as would be the complete handle.
I did try years ago to get the Mayflower, standard, razor edge clubs etc to jump in but they all said that "they" were all right on their own! but I would think that they maybe struggling now so that could open up a bigger market for your supplier.

Date: May 31, 2009

This is good news! I want one!

David in Sweden

Date: Jun 9, 2009

Hey,
that´s great news!!!

If you starting reproduction the Phase 1 "P" grille, i will buy one in alumium definitly.
130,00 would be ok, polishing is a matter of costs.
I own #218, it´s a Phase 1 from 1958 and i bought it 13 years ago from a guy in California.
The car is still a restoration project but i´m in the hope starting with it next year!

Please keep me informed!

kind regards
Thomas
thomas.schumann@ts-mediaconsult.de

Date: Jun 10, 2009

Now that the estimate is firm, I wanted to reconfirm that I am still interested.

Please do count me in.

I would also be interested in the door handles should that come to pass.

Dean #213 in Southern California

Date: Jun 11, 2009

Thomas,
you will also be needing a set of very fine hand brake cables? see the thread and help Nick out with his stock!

Date: Jun 23, 2009

Update
The first grille is due to be cast later this week. Fingers crossed everyone.
I'll update on Friday.

arturo64 · Status: Offline

Wow, so did this come to fruition ??? I happen to be missing this defining piece.

nigel c · Status: Offline

Yea, these are the guys that Gary sourced for the reproduction P bars of which there was also a very good in depth article in his outstanding magazine (few, this suckin up's real hard work!) Patrick is a really knowledgeable chap on casting but I guess you don't have to talk directly to him as he's also a very busy fellow!

http://www.newpro.co.uk/index.html

New Pro Foundries Ltd.
Unit C, Horton
Yiewsley
West Drayton
Middlesex
UB7 8EB

Tel: (01895) 443194
Fax: (01895) 442968

E-Mail: info@newpro.co.uk

General Enquiries - Michelle Helly-Chipps
Technical Enquiries - Patrick Helly
Financial Enquiries - Derek Taylor

AND, if you cut n paste their details into the forum you end up fixed into their webpage template .................

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Jon Nolan · Status: Offline

Hi Gary/Nigel,

I can't afford one but I'll have one anyway as long as they are good copies with no pits!

Just polished aluminium for me, I'm not fancy enough for chrome...
Email me with payment details if you need cash ASAP
Jon Nolan

I did have the broken one from VXN but Dad lent it to Dudley Thompson in the 1970s to get new ones cast and he gave it to Ken and I haven't seen it since!
I'm sure I'll get it back when I get the Le Mans Car back ;0)

Either that or I'll just get thrashed for being cheeky.